Comments on: Zotero, an Endnote alternative http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/ Sounding out ideas on African languages, vivid sensory words, and iconicity Sat, 12 May 2012 10:14:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: herre http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-4144 herre Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:21:39 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-4144 that's what i thought, thank you very much that’s what i thought, thank you very much

]]> By: Mark Dingemanse http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-4142 Mark Dingemanse Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:12:58 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-4142 Well, since EN en EN Web use a proprietary database format (i.e. your citations are locked in) there is no way to convert the citations in your document automatically to the Zotero format. However, <em>if</em> you can export at least your library to Zotero, then converting the citations in the document manually is still doable by hand. Save flattened copy of the document, get your refs in Zotero, and go through the citations one by one, inserting them anew from your Zotero library using the word processor plugin. It should not take more than 30 minutes of focused work. Well, since EN en EN Web use a proprietary database format (i.e. your citations are locked in) there is no way to convert the citations in your document automatically to the Zotero format.

However, if you can export at least your library to Zotero, then converting the citations in the document manually is still doable by hand. Save flattened copy of the document, get your refs in Zotero, and go through the citations one by one, inserting them anew from your Zotero library using the word processor plugin. It should not take more than 30 minutes of focused work.

]]> By: herre http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-4139 herre Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:47:17 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-4139 hi dear more experienced users, would it make sense to switch from EN web to Z in a paper already including >50 refs? or is it not worth the effort? (due to annoyances with logging into EN) thanks for replies. best, h hi dear more experienced users,

would it make sense to switch from EN web to Z in a paper already including >50 refs? or is it not worth the effort? (due to annoyances with logging into EN)

thanks for replies.

best, h

]]> By: endnote alternatifler « Okuduklarım http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2740 endnote alternatifler « Okuduklarım Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:17:30 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2740 [...] Zotero, an Endnote alternative [...] [...] Zotero, an Endnote alternative [...]

]]> By: Eric http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2719 Eric Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:21:07 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2719 Mark, thanks for the offer. I found a workaround so I won't bother you with converting the .enl file for me. I pasted text from the .htm into WizFolio and used that to export as .ris for import into Zotero. Thanks again, Eric Mark, thanks for the offer. I found a workaround so I won’t bother you with converting the .enl file for me. I pasted text from the .htm into WizFolio and used that to export as .ris for import into Zotero.

Thanks again,
Eric

]]> By: Mark Dingemanse http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2718 Mark Dingemanse Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:01:31 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2718 What you need is a running EndNote version. If you don't have access to EndNote, I'd be willing to help with the conversion. You could send me the .enl file so that I can try to export the references in a format that can be imported by Zotero. What you need is a running EndNote version. If you don’t have access to EndNote, I’d be willing to help with the conversion. You could send me the .enl file so that I can try to export the references in a format that can be imported by Zotero.

]]> By: Eric http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2716 Eric Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:11:18 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2716 Mark, I <a href="http://phdblog.net/zotero-or-bust/" rel="nofollow">saw that you know how to import a .enl file into Zotero.</a> A colleague gave me an .enl file (and an .htm file) and I'd love to find a way to import it into Zotero. Any chance you could help me? Mark, I saw that you know how to import a .enl file into Zotero. A colleague gave me an .enl file (and an .htm file) and I’d love to find a way to import it into Zotero. Any chance you could help me?

]]> By: Mark Dingemanse http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2619 Mark Dingemanse Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:27:20 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2619 Kal, you can either click on 'My Library' and select the references that you want to include in a bibliography ('My Library' always displays all sources), or you can make a separate folder (Zotero calls these 'collections') which contains all of the items you want to cite so that you don't have to navigate the different folders. Kal, you can either click on ‘My Library’ and select the references that you want to include in a bibliography (‘My Library’ always displays all sources), or you can make a separate folder (Zotero calls these ‘collections’) which contains all of the items you want to cite so that you don’t have to navigate the different folders.

]]> By: Kal Shah http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2617 Kal Shah Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:19:07 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2617 Hi Mark. This forum has been much help in guiding me to choose the right software which works for me and my machine! Thanks for your recent input as well. I could just dive into any software like EndNote because it is compatible with macintosh's Pages but one first look at EndNote X2 I knew that I should browse a bit more. It is complicated and not user friendly. The pdf guide total up to 750 pages! It's either it is very detailed or simply long winded. A good software should make it easy for user to learn and use. I have downloaded Zotero and gave it a a go yesterday. It's quite simply and certainly friendlier than EndNote. And can't believe it's free! Although Zotero does not work with Pages it is able to create bibliography in RTF format which can than be copied into pages so far without any errors. I mean for something which is open sourced that is good enough. I am still figuring out how to copy multiple citations from different folders in Zotero at once into a single RTF. I had to go to different folders separately yesterday. Is there a way to do that? My earlier research has also pointed me to a software called Bookends which is made for macintosh platform. I appreciate comments from those who are familiar with Bookends. Thanks. Kal Hi Mark.

This forum has been much help in guiding me to choose the right software which works for me and my machine! Thanks for your recent input as well. I could just dive into any software like EndNote because it is compatible with macintosh’s Pages but one first look at EndNote X2 I knew that I should browse a bit more. It is complicated and not user friendly. The pdf guide total up to 750 pages! It’s either it is very detailed or simply long winded. A good software should make it easy for user to learn and use.

I have downloaded Zotero and gave it a a go yesterday. It’s quite simply and certainly friendlier than EndNote. And can’t believe it’s free! Although Zotero does not work with Pages it is able to create bibliography in RTF format which can than be copied into pages so far without any errors. I mean for something which is open sourced that is good enough. I am still figuring out how to copy multiple citations from different folders in Zotero at once into a single RTF. I had to go to different folders separately yesterday. Is there a way to do that?

My earlier research has also pointed me to a software called Bookends which is made for macintosh platform. I appreciate comments from those who are familiar with Bookends.

Thanks.

Kal

]]> By: Mark Dingemanse http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/comment-page-1/#comment-2616 Mark Dingemanse Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:46:35 +0000 http://ideophone.org/zotero-endnote-alternative/#comment-2616 Hi there. Unfortunately, Apple has made the choice to support only EndNote in Pages. They haven't even made the interface extensible as, for example, MS Word and Open Office, so there is nothing Zotero can do to support Pages (<a href="http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/639/support-for-citations-in-apple-pagesapp/" rel="nofollow">background info here</a>). Zotero <em>does</em> have the <a href="http://www.zotero.org/support/rtf_scan" rel="nofollow">RTF scan</a> feature which enables you to automate the citation process to some extent, but that's about as far it goes without Apple opening up its interface. I wish it was different, for in my experience 10 minutes of investing your time in Zotero is equal to a couple of hours in EndNote. Please do contact Apple and ask them to make Pages more open so that their customers have free choice over the citation manager they wish to use. If enough people ask for it they'll certainly consider improving Pages, especially because it should not be too difficult for them to support open standards. Hi there. Unfortunately, Apple has made the choice to support only EndNote in Pages. They haven’t even made the interface extensible as, for example, MS Word and Open Office, so there is nothing Zotero can do to support Pages (background info here). Zotero does have the RTF scan feature which enables you to automate the citation process to some extent, but that’s about as far it goes without Apple opening up its interface. I wish it was different, for in my experience 10 minutes of investing your time in Zotero is equal to a couple of hours in EndNote.
Please do contact Apple and ask them to make Pages more open so that their customers have free choice over the citation manager they wish to use. If enough people ask for it they’ll certainly consider improving Pages, especially because it should not be too difficult for them to support open standards.

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